NEW BANDS On the SCENE

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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby Irene-T on Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:36 pm
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plainjane wrote:hey irene-t, dont worry about putting the dampners on, we have discussed this very point, but if it does materialise it will be for a holiday with the possibility of coming home with an album....as for uk producers i have struggled to find any as we are based in london most of the people i have found are up north and dont seem to have any interest in working with us...hence why i tried to look across the pond, as most things these days can be done through the web...but when this offer came in we thought why not any excuse for some experiance and a holiday :lol:



Relieved to hear your eyes aren't too closed!!
Yes, there are several excellent studio's in't North, as is 90% of the music scene !!!! (Waiting now for t'lads to tell me wrong....when not!!)

Hoping you and your mate have a brill holiday and you meet some good contacts along the way
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:41 pm
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Irene-T wrote:Relieved to hear your eyes aren't too closed!!
Yes, there are several excellent studio's in't North, as is 90% of the music scene !!!! (Waiting now for t'lads to tell me wrong....when not!!)

Hoping you and your mate have a brill holiday and you meet some good contacts along the way
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:D thanyou, we hope so too.. :D
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby CJ on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:20 pm
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The name Lee Williams seems to ring a distant bell but I can't quite remember why.
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby brian ahern on Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:14 pm
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CJ wrote:The name Lee Williams seems to ring a distant bell but I can't quite remember why.


CJ Lee Williams was a well known and respected entertainment agent who specialised in country music. His main interests these days seems to be in his internet radio station out of Nashville and his interest in the British Country Music Awards organisation that he heads up along with several other faces from the British scene.

Hope this helps to ring your bell louder.

How are you keeping mate, It seems to have gone" All Quiet On The Country & Western Front "from you these days.

Irene I tend to agree with you about recordings in Britain. You get what you pay for is the general maxim.The same can be said about Nashville which begs the question of why should one fork out the additional expense of recording abroad unless the deal covers any outgoing expenses including travel.

Might be a better idea to record here and send the product abroad for finalising into the finished product ready for promoting and sales.....it's worked for others and saved a shed load of expenses into the bargain. Just a though that should really be a no brainer when the bigger picture is considered.

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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:01 pm
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brian ahern wrote:
CJ wrote:The name Lee Williams seems to ring a distant bell but I can't quite remember why.


CJ Lee Williams was a well known and respected entertainment agent who specialised in country music. His main interests these days seems to be in his internet radio station out of Nashville and his interest in the British Country Music Awards organisation that he heads up along with several other faces from the British scene.

Hope this helps to ring your bell louder.

How are you keeping mate, It seems to have gone" All Quiet On The Country & Western Front "from you these days.

Irene I tend to agree with you about recordings in Britain. You get what you pay for is the general maxim.The same can be said about Nashville which begs the question of why should one fork out the additional expense of recording abroad unless the deal covers any outgoing expenses including travel.

Might be a better idea to record here and send the product abroad for finalising into the finished product ready for promoting and sales.....it's worked for others and saved a shed load of expenses into the bargain. Just a though that should really be a no brainer when the bigger picture is considered.

brian.


hey brian, tbh we were looking at producers in nashville because after a long search in the uk the few i did find had no interest in helping us produce the album, we were going to try and do all of the work via the internet, but were offered to participate in a show, and do the recording out there....so we were seriosly considering it...(i have never been to nashville and would love to have a look around...so it was any excuse really :lol: )
however if any one knows of any good music producers/srudios in the south i would be very grateful if they could pass it on, as we would love to work with others in the uk and have a completly british album.... :D
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby lillypodsparrot on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:56 pm
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You could try this guy, he had a great rep as a country solo before he set up his studio & it appears his rep continues. Good luck
http://www.ten21recordingstudios.co.uk/
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby brian ahern on Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:41 pm
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plainjane could I point you in the direction of Brian Hughes as a country music producer.

Brian is a performer with an excellent track record as a songwriter and producer to add to his credentials as a stage and recording performer. Well worth a good look at I assure you.

I can understand your interest in visiting Nashville the world centre of the country music recording industry. I have been several times and in the past lived there on a couple of occasions. I also know that to hire in top producers, engineers, session musicians etc can be very expensive, especially if one is working within a self financed, or limited budget.

I admire your ambition of wanting to bring out an all British written album but you must remember that the whole British scene falls into several categories. From club to theatre and festival. As does the British songwriter. From club styled singer/songwriter to internationally acclaimer hit writer. All holding a degree of appreciation with the fans and buying public.

I honestly offer my best wishes in your search for stardom while at the same time admire your ambitions. All I am really advising is that although it is nice to let your dreams through once in a while it is wiser to let your brains be the servant of your ambitions in the long run.

Yes I do believe that you have the talent to succeed within country music, that's why I am offering encouragement to you.

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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:59 pm
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lillypodsparrot wrote:You could try this guy, he had a great rep as a country solo before he set up his studio & it appears his rep continues. Good luck
http://www.ten21recordingstudios.co.uk/


ooohhhhhh it looks very swish doesnt it!! :D
i looked at the website but couldnt find who the guy who owns/runs the studio....come on do a bit of name dropping :lol:

thanks for the link :D
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:07 pm
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brian ahern wrote:plainjane could I point you in the direction of Brian Hughes as a country music producer.

Brian is a performer with an excellent track record as a songwriter and producer to add to his credentials as a stage and recording performer. Well worth a good look at I assure you.

I can understand your interest in visiting Nashville the world centre of the country music recording industry. I have been several times and in the past lived there on a couple of occasions. I also know that to hire in top producers, engineers, session musicians etc can be very expensive, especially if one is working within a self financed, or limited budget.

I admire your ambition of wanting to bring out an all British written album but you must remember that the whole British scene falls into several categories. From club to theatre and festival. As does the British songwriter. From club styled singer/songwriter to internationally acclaimer hit writer. All holding a degree of appreciation with the fans and buying public.

I honestly offer my best wishes in your search for stardom while at the same time admire your ambitions. All I am really advising is that although it is nice to let your dreams through once in a while it is wiser to let your brains be the servant of your ambitions in the long run.

Yes I do believe that you have the talent to succeed within country music, that's why I am offering encouragement to you.

brian.



hello brian, i have mailed mr hughes after visiting his page to see what he can offer us production wise, thankyou for the advice, and your best wishes, but i can assure you superstardom is the least of my worries, my main concern is to get our album recorded and out there...the rest is up to country music fans and hopefully they will like it enough so we will be able to make another one...and maybe another :lol:
and yes we have both been very lucky in that everything seems to have fallen into place for us...so we are worried that we will undoubtedly encounter a set back at one point, but hopefully our faith and commitment will see us through what ever is thrown at us :D
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby lillypodsparrot on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:23 am
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Sean Kenny, like Brian Hughes is a perfectionist when it comes to music. No doubt you read the testimonials on Seans web-site which I believe all to be true & honest and the studio is based in the south. Give Sean a bell, contact No: etc on the webby.
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby lo&m on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:43 pm
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I saw this in the BBC news magazine and I immediately thought of this conversation. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason why music from one culture can be so popular in another.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14756009
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby livewirer on Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:23 pm
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plainjane wrote: :D hello, yes i am one half of Travellin Rose (i am the gobby brunette lol) and the blonde is my dearest friend kelly lee, who you may already be familiar with (her debut single as a solo artist was 'stay' ft albert lee)
i hope you did like the clips (and you wernt shall we say...extracting the michael) we only have covers available at the mo..but we have finished writing our debut album...now to record it.... :D


Awww Plainjane, I wondered what had happened to Kelly Lee. Her single "Stay" is one of the best original self penned tracks I've heard from a British country singer. I got to meet her briefly once at the Albert Hall many years ago. I was a friend on Myspace and knew she was planning to go to Nashville a year last August to cut her next album but nothing seemed to happen and she kind of vanished (like many have done) from the Myspace network. I'm sure she had a busy enough year having another baby last year.

I love the Travellin Rose name and the logo and you look and sound great together.
I don't have that Miranda Lambert song or album. What a super song "More Like Her" is, that so suits your style. I like the interchanging on the vocals on each verse. I would have thought the song would have been Top 5 but it reached #17 on Billboard - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UumRkksN-LE

I'm a bit confused with all the videos you flag up. Are they all Travellin Rose with Miranda's backing track.
I wonder what the direction might be for Travellin Rose.
Do you plan single, single , 6 Pak or EP then maybe an album :?:
If so will you do a mix of original songs along with some covers. If you came up with songs of the quality of "Stay" it would be exciting.

Do you intend to tour or play within the radius of your location providing there are enough live venues to play.
If you were able to play instruments that would be a HUGE advantage without having to use backing tracks.
Someone is unlikely to travel a long way unless it is to see "real" live music.

To break into National recogonition I'm even more convinced that artists who can play will get looked upon much more favourable and allow you to play anywhere. The touring female duo's who have been successful have been The Secret Sisters ( Too late for you to dress up in polka dot wartime dresses and sing Bill Monroe songs though) also Madison Violet from Canada who write ther own songs and play acoustic guitar and fiddle.

This is why some like the UK's very own The Toy Hearts from Birmingham have caught the attention of Bob Harris who invited them in for a live session and interview today. See forum post - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9263&p=106435#p106435

I hope Travellin Rose will be more Pistol Annies than pop fluff JaneDear Girls. :wink:
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:45 pm
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hello livewirer
i loved kelly's album as well, but this time round we are going to hopefully leave a bit of the rock behind, and as we both agreed at the very beginning it must have fiddle and steel or it aint our kind of country :lol: when kelly and i met through our love of writing we were both stay at home mummys which kept us busy enough, but our love for what we are doing ment we had an album written within a couple of months, and we were out of the kitchen and back onto the stage before we could blink :D
funnily enough you should mention the pistol annies as we both adore them and admire the songs they have written, and yes we hope the songs we have selected for our album have the same sort of impact as PA as we love their attitude...the songs that we posted on youtube were only a gap filler...although at a recent festival we did do a 'covers' set....btu once we get the album recorded we would absolutly love to be able to perform at the country festivals, and if the clubs will have us i am sure we will be more then happy to go there as well :lol: the miranda song is from the album crazy ex girlfriend...which was the first album i bought of miranda's....i have been hooked ever since, and i am surprised that sond peaked so low...its a anumber one in my mind any way lol
at the moment the 12 tracks we have have all been written by kelly and i, but it wouldnt surprise me if we change our mind and sneak a cover or 2 in.....but we will see :D
hmmm as for instruments, kelly can plat the guitar...and i did attemp to learn, however my guitar and my 'guitar for beginners book' are still in the corner of my bedroom lol
but we are trying to get a band together as i do agree , if people are paying to watch you perform, you gotta give em something worth watching....all we need is our own fiddle, steel and drums and we will be ready...so we are half way there....
well oh my gosh i have written a story..i'd better get off and free up the page :D
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby livewirer on Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:53 pm
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plainjane wrote:at the moment the 12 tracks we have have all been written by kelly and i, but it wouldnt surprise me if we change our mind and sneak a cover or 2 in.....but we will see :D
hmmm as for instruments, kelly can plat the guitar...and i did attemp to learn, however my guitar and my 'guitar for beginners book' are still in the corner of my bedroom lol. but we are trying to get a band together as i do agree , if people are paying to watch you perform, you gotta give em something worth watching....all we need is our own fiddle, steel and drums and we will be ready...so we are half way there....


Hi plainjane, Thanks so much for the great reply.
You sound to have achieved so much already with the writing. You have done so well as busy mums.
As a music fan and outsider I have seen many young UK artists over a decade get to certain stage and get no further or just move onto other things. For some reason which I can't explain the radio people haven't supported young UK artists who have produced all original songs on an album. Is the old adage of play us something we know approach, The British love familarity ( The whole of X Factor is singing covers). The Irish Country scene is a cover song industry!

I think it would be a good idea to include a few covers as some media both at local and national level like to introduce a new name via a familiar tune.
I've heard that twice this week.
The Miranda song might be a good pick or something like a stripped down version of Lady Gaga's Born This Way ( country version - Youtube) that has a gritty vibe could be a cool idea.

Again duo's who play have the advantage of not having the logistical problems of getting other musicians together with busy commitments to rehearse and play gigs and playing further afield could just be a few Weekend festivals in a year.
Even for a solo performer you could make the best album in the world with Nashville musicians but its no good having an album at home and then not be able to promote it properly.
Many clubs in the UK seem to be so in tune with line dancing and wouldn't book a band that wanted to come in and "entertain" rather they just want someone to provide music to dance too.
It's a hard balancing act to strike for the UK scene. For some clubs just a singer or solo act strumming guitar with backing tracks is quite acceptable.
I'm sure the ability to play instuments well opens up many avenues at folk clubs and on the singer-songwriter circuit and the possibility down the road of opening for a bigger name.
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Re: NEW BANDS On the SCENE

Postby plainjane on Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:41 pm
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hey livewirer,
believe it or not, it was the hardest job cutting our songs to the final 12, we found that when we started writing together we just clicked and couldnt stop, hence why we decided to take it further to showcase them....but i understand where you are coming from, and we were thinking of having an attempt to countryfy a few classics....or not may be the case lol
but we have a while before we finalise what will be added to the album as we have been advised by many to concentrate on the singles and the album will follow......
i tell you what though i must add that i am over the moon that i stumbled across this website and that all who i have encountered on here have been absolutly wonderful, supportive and above all informative...i thank you all so much, and i hope that we can absorb all of the info and advice you have all passed on, and ultimatly produce an album that you all....well most of you....or maybe some of you......ok i will settle for a couple of you will like and maybe love :D
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